tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post9091745138266647223..comments2024-01-01T10:14:51.252-05:00Comments on 1 Blue Jays Way: BlockbusterThe Man With The Golden Armhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11193601268748890956noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-44359703219332860762010-07-23T23:07:51.705-04:002010-07-23T23:07:51.705-04:00All Braves fans aren't racist. Come on.All Braves fans aren't racist. Come on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-22632480445839883922010-07-20T11:38:50.942-04:002010-07-20T11:38:50.942-04:00I'm a lifelong Braves fan and LOVED watching Y...I'm a lifelong Braves fan and LOVED watching Yunel play, when he wanted to play. He does loaf, he does seem lazy or spaced out or whatever you want to call it. Some people want to call it racism when we call out Yunel and then watch Chipper trot to first but if anyone read the Braves board, MANY of us have called out Chipper for being lacksidasical(yeah I know I spelled it wrong) and lack of production. Someone on here called us Braves fans racist and/or ignorant but last time I checked Chipper's not from Cuba...<br /><br />My personal hope is Yunel gets to his FULL potential and carries Toronto to the Series so we can have another shot @ the title with you guys. I hope Gonzo stays hot on this career year he is having and its as good of a World Series as 92 was with us winning this time! As for who won the trade, compare it after this year when we have a DEEP playoff run and we Braves will have won In 20 years, who knows. Anyone remember the Doyle Alexander/John Smoltz trade, everyone said Detroit fleeced us with a deep playoff run Doyle helped with but 20 years later, we have a class act Hall of Famer we got to watch. <br /><br />Good luck Jays and please beat the crap out of the Yanks!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-45131114523923414082010-07-19T19:36:36.529-04:002010-07-19T19:36:36.529-04:00What is your take on sending Alex Gonzalez to Atla...What is your take on sending Alex Gonzalez to Atlanta?<br /><br />I understand the trade from both ends. I understand what Alex [Anthopoulos] was trying to do in Toronto, trying to get a young shortstop, buy low and hopefully hit high. And Atlanta is trying to win. Bobby Cox’s last year, he wants to win. The question I raise is I struggle with a guy that’s playing on a first-place team and for a player’s manager like Bobby Cox that has tough time playing for him. That raises a little bit of a red flag for me.<br /><br />But Atlanta is living in a “now” mentality. I understand that, [Alex] Gonzalez is having a great year, they get to ride him. The option for him is only $2.5 million next year, which is cheap for a shortstop, and really, I like the two players Atlanta got in the trade. I think they are down-the-road prospects, but they are prospects, and the Jays didn’t get much in return in the way of prospects, so I know people are saying the Jays won this one, but I have a tendency to think Atlanta might have won the trade. But I see it from both ends, and I think it might address a need for both clubs as they continue to go forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-75551008266130674162010-07-19T18:34:21.831-04:002010-07-19T18:34:21.831-04:00And i promise Braves fans arent racist. Well. ac...And i promise Braves fans arent racist. Well. actually i couldn't promise that because there's always some people that you just kinda hide in the closet when the world comes and takes a peep...but it was never "oh he's Cuban". it was never that fact. it was....why in God's name did you not TAG UP FROM 3rd WITH 1 OUT TO A FLY BALL TO DEEP CENTER?? WHY WERE YOU NOT IN POSITION TO TAKE THAT GROUND BALL? WHERE IS YOUR PLATE DISCIPLINE? that sorta thing. im not a racist in the least.Claynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-25173070173979450232010-07-19T18:26:01.977-04:002010-07-19T18:26:01.977-04:00Hey I'm a Braves fan through and through and I...Hey I'm a Braves fan through and through and I'll tell you right now that Yunel Escobar can play baseball. He hasnt performed the first half of this year but...i guess some players have off-halves. But i'll give you all props because he's a player. Jo Jo though?? NO. and i'm not even trying to give ya'll trouble or anything...he's awful. i've watched him pitch for two or three years. he's a liability. don't use him. ever. hope collins and pastornicky work out... peaceClaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-43513976850389187072010-07-18T23:07:55.790-04:002010-07-18T23:07:55.790-04:00As a Braves fan, it is certainly bittersweet to se...As a Braves fan, it is certainly bittersweet to see Yunel go. Toronto fans will immediately fall in love with his cannon arm which is the best I've seen since Shawon Dunston. Once the smoke clears, you will probably not like how he spaces out during games. He almost got Glaus' wrist broken with a weak throw to 1st right before the allstar break. I think that was the final straw in the clubhouse. He used to get away with crap like that but you can when you're producing. He has not this year and thus he's gone. Btw, JoJo sucks. Cut him now. You'll just be dissapointed. Hope these 20 year olds we got from you guys turn out to contribute.......RIP Yunel's promising ATL careerJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-89458581546379798322010-07-17T05:42:23.172-04:002010-07-17T05:42:23.172-04:00Special thanks to everyone from Hotlanta for stopp...Special thanks to everyone from Hotlanta for stopping by!<br /><br />You guys are in win now mode and this kid was in the way. I get it. Deep down I am actually very jealous and can only wish for meaningful baseball games involving my team after July.<br />However<br />Even if I was sitting in your chair and the Jays were in first place in the standings, I would say this is a dumb trade. You just gave up on a 27 year old Gold Glover who hits around .300<br />Did you ever consider sending him down to AAA if he needed a wake up call? Seriously.<br />You just traded him for a much older shortstop who I cannot really say anything bad about, but then again I only got to see him for 80 odd games. Gonzo is a pro. He plays great defense and is getting a lot of extra base hits, right now anyways.<br />Perhaps you should take a moment and read this:<br /><br />http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/beware-the-jays-sluggers/<br /><br />I respectfully submit our new guy in our park does better than your new guy in your park for the rest of this year. Straight up.<br /><br />As for YoYo or JoBlow or whatever you wanna call him, I put up a post about him. Read it. Think about it. Then relax. He is just a throw in.<br /><br />http://1bluejaysway.blogspot.com/2010/07/whatever-happened-to-jo-jo.html<br /><br />Special thanks goes to Andrew, the Rays fan, for being a neutral third party and a voice of reason on this shitshow of a comment thread.The Man With The Golden Armhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11193601268748890956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-21276115658915295662010-07-16T18:09:41.935-04:002010-07-16T18:09:41.935-04:00No-one will deny this wasn't a win for the Blu...No-one will deny this wasn't a win for the Blue Jays. You got a potential All Star and great defensive shortstop in Yunel Escobar, and Jo Jo Reyes as filler.<br /><br />However, that doesn't mean that the Braves didn't do well either. This isn't the normal case of a team making a pennant run dealing a young player who would have been valuable in the future for short term gains. Escobar was not well liked in the Atlanta clubhouse and had to be moved in the classic "addition by subtraction" move - that we got a shortstop who could help us for the stretch run was a bonus. He is still a fine player and one I loved to watch at shortstop, but the fact was he needed a change of scenery.<br /><br />I hope he sorts himself out in Toronto and I find much of the reporting of his antics since the trade in bad taste, but this is a move that helps Atlanta in their efforts to try to win a championship in Bobby Cox, Billy Wagner and Chipper Jones' final seasons. The Braves didn't get fleeced, they got exactly what they needed.NickCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-6504638173727022892010-07-16T16:53:00.949-04:002010-07-16T16:53:00.949-04:00This trade wasn't about maximizing talent, it ...This trade wasn't about maximizing talent, it wasn't about filling holes, or gearing up for the playoffs... it was a message that if you don't play your hardest for the Atlanta Braves, you will get shipped off. <br /><br />Atlanta Braves fans grew tired of watching him give 80%. You can read some articles and deem his attitude as "fire and passion," but after you watch him you will find it is simply lack of desire to put forth effort. Not running out ground balls is most definitely not a result of "fire and passion."<br /><br />Let me put it this way. When Alex Gonzalez walked into the Braves clubhouse yesterday, he received a standing ovation from the player. Partly because of who he is, but mostly due to the black cloud he replaced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-30445367731465082022010-07-16T16:28:56.716-04:002010-07-16T16:28:56.716-04:00Did they really say JoJo Reyes is better then Tim ...Did they really say JoJo Reyes is better then Tim Collins? Have they ever seen him pitch?! Worst pitcher ever. Im sorry Blue Jay fans do not expect anything out of him. and if he ever pitches for the mlb club...change the channel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-56815696272814513252010-07-16T16:14:09.866-04:002010-07-16T16:14:09.866-04:00Wow, way to draw conclusions about an entire fanba...Wow, way to draw conclusions about an entire fanbase because of a few internet comments. As has already been pointed out, other latin players such as Prado are fan favorites down in Atlanta.<br /><br />There are idiots in every fanbase, including Toronto's, as has been proven here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-80310040442608391072010-07-16T14:43:38.632-04:002010-07-16T14:43:38.632-04:00Regarding the racist comments from an Atlanta blog...Regarding the racist comments from an Atlanta blog. As you know any moron can post childish or inappropriate things on a blog.<br /><br />Yunel's issues in Atlanta were not related to any racist issues. He was a fan favorite, although quirky. I do not believe it is considered racist to expect MLB players to hustle, play smart fundamental baseball, respect the game and support your team mates.<br /><br />Yunel's many base running gaffs (and there were many), his inexpicable mental lapes in the field, his complete lack of hitting with conviction, and always presenting himself like a petulent teenager that looks like he needs a good azz kicking.<br /><br />Tell us what you think in October when the Braves go to the playoffs and Yunel is benched by Cito for not running out ground balls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-20005144739329527432010-07-16T14:28:39.108-04:002010-07-16T14:28:39.108-04:00Yunel is a talented SS with tremendous upside. Br...Yunel is a talented SS with tremendous upside. Braves fans wish him success in Toronto as a fresh start under a strong manager like Cito should be good for him. He has been one of my favorite players since I saw him in Spring Training 2007.<br /><br />Unfortunately, Yunel is the NL version of Milton Bradley disease. He is soon to be 28 (or 30 in North American years), so he is not a kid. I have rarely seen a ballplayer be so completely self absorbed and sullen. He looks so unhappy.<br /><br />The Braves have a strong team that leverages everyone on the 25 man and is now 5 games up in the NL East. What has Yunel got to be unhappy about? He has had playing time, has been given every opportunity to excel and yet, he is miserable. Hope the trade makes things better, but he has a long history of being a problem child and leopards do not change their spots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-9650073819389826302010-07-16T14:23:51.133-04:002010-07-16T14:23:51.133-04:00This is why games aren't played on paper. Yun...This is why games aren't played on paper. Yunel is a good player, hopefully he will turn it around in Toronto. The bottom line is, he was a distraction to a team that has a legitimate shot at the World Series this year. You can take all of the funny little stats you can come up with to show that you're getting a potential superstar in Toronto, but he will never reach his potential unless he gets his head right (for Braves fans, he is Andruw Jones 2.0, only more of a head case) The Braves aren't looking at Gonzalez as a long-term replacement. He's just going to hold the fort down for Edward Salcedo, and he offers more to this club for THIS YEAR than Escobar does. The accusations of racism against Braves fans are flat-out ridiculous and ignorant. When somebody consistently refuses to hustle, that's not being "misunderstood", that's being lazy. We were also more than happy to get rid of John Rocker, Robert Fick, and Bob Wickman because they were clubhouse cancers, so you can keep you "racist" argument.<br /><br />Also, speaking as a Braves fan, we can't thank you enough for taking Blow-Jo Reyes off of our hands. Have fun with a kid who has a 5-15 career record in the majors, but was sure enough of his own abilities to refuse the advice of John Smoltz and Tom Glavine.Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-19547349409010111932010-07-16T13:09:38.102-04:002010-07-16T13:09:38.102-04:00As a Rays fan (and thus with no dog in this hunt),...As a Rays fan (and thus with no dog in this hunt), let me add: you guys absolutely fleeced the Braves. I would call it an even proposition that Escobar is more valuable at SS over the balance of the season than Gonzalez, independent of any other considerations.<br /><br />And the only other consideration of consequence is that Y. Escobar is cost-controlled for the next three seasons, plays quality defense and has previously hit at an All-Star level. The guys the Jays gave up are inconsequential by comparison; Collins is a nice story with upside as a bullpen arm, and Pastornicky is the proverbial roster hamster.<br /><br />And that's it. A free agent, a fringe prospect, and a nobody in exchange for three cost-controlled years of a good defensive shortstop with serious hitting potential. That's preposterously great, particularly given that the Red Sox are also out there looking for a SS. Wow.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-78200496917935028992010-07-16T12:53:39.341-04:002010-07-16T12:53:39.341-04:00@ brian
So they guy can't speak English well...@ brian <br /><br />So they guy can't speak English well at all yet he calls the official scorer in between innings? First off, that's a lie and secondly Bobby wouldn't allow it even if it was possible! Good job proving how hateful and racial Braves fan are (as mentioned above!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-47554357139892134732010-07-16T12:48:00.087-04:002010-07-16T12:48:00.087-04:00Toronto will soon know how talented Yunel really i...Toronto will soon know how talented Yunel really is. No one in Atlanta can argue that Yunel is not talented. You GM AA said Yunel is a flashy player who was often misunderstood in ATL. No AA we understand what Yunel was, is and always will be he’s an arrogant horses ars with frosted tips to boot. He will soon show his ars to Toronto as well. If Yunel can’t get along with Bobby Cox who is widely known as a players manager who only expects hustle from his players in return he can’t get along with anyone. That was his biggest down fall in ATL he was lazy and he would pout if something went wrong. On multiple occasions he was charged an error and then called the official scorer between innings to complain. A player shouldn’t worry about official scores he should worry about W-L only. Good Riddance Yuni!!! Look at the bright side for years you complained about adjusting to American culture, well now you don’t have to worry about that anymore, you’re stuck in Canada now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435062086255042497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-89773698538284942442010-07-16T12:47:13.698-04:002010-07-16T12:47:13.698-04:00Braves fan here... While watching Yunel play I dev...Braves fan here... While watching Yunel play I developed a little saying "Yunel would get benched for that"... Because while he got benched for lack of hustle, we got to see Garret "Loaf" Anderson and Gimper Jones take plays off every night!!! Best of luck Esky! Maybe now you won't get benched for doing what the veteran leaders continue to do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-53565503024581244022010-07-16T12:44:40.795-04:002010-07-16T12:44:40.795-04:00Dude the guy above mentioned Omar Vizquel as a men...Dude the guy above mentioned Omar Vizquel as a mentor to Alexi Ramirez with the White Sox. Vizquel doesn't play for the Braves! As you suggested "Vizquel? No issues there, why? Because he plays his heart out for us every night". You take such offense to the statements yet, you didn't look over the links provided where Yunel gets slammed by racial slurs and jokes. Face it, you probably aren't racist. Lot's of Braves fans were towards Escobar. Solid kid, just needs guidance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-89307851503277237812010-07-16T12:35:02.495-04:002010-07-16T12:35:02.495-04:00Braves fan here. I can understand why both sides ...Braves fan here. I can understand why both sides can come away from this trade feeling good. I know nothing about the prospects Toronto gave up, I just assume the Braves feel good about it. Reyes has struggled during his numerous stints with the club. He has very good stuff, just for whatever reason, it never clicked when he got the call ups. For whatever reason, the Braves didn't get along with Yunel. Whether it was a racial issue, him being less than focused at times, or just laziness, the clubhouse and the coach didn't want him there anymore. He is extremely talented and has huge upside. I hope he is huge for you guys, because he seems like a decent kid. Gonzalez is a decent shortstop, but he will never put up the type of numbers Yunel is capable of. Short term it might work out better for the Braves, but this seems more like a move to make the clubhouse happy. Ultimately, when the dust settles, I expect that Yunel will be very good for Toronto and Reyes will turn out to be a middle rotation guy. The stats will be in Toronto's favor, but I don't think that those same stats would have been produced in Atlanta. Sometimes a guy just needs to start over somewhere else to be successful, and I think you guys got two of them that will help you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-14199601309005898532010-07-16T12:15:15.988-04:002010-07-16T12:15:15.988-04:00LMAO!! are you serious?? How can people say that t...LMAO!! are you serious?? How can people say that the Braves and their fans are rascist against latin players? Prado? we love him. why? because he plays hard all the time. Vizquel? No issues there, why? Because he plays his heart out for us every night. Blanco? all good, no one dislikes him. So either you are saying that Braves only dislike, cuban players... or you are just throwing pointless accusations out at people to compensate for your own inadequecies. I am guessing the latter. People are way to quick to play the race card. This is simply a case of a guy that did not play hard all the time,and hurt the team chemistry being traded in the best interest of the club. It is sickening how quick people throw that out there over things that are clearly not.Ninjuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624173069550064404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-3912281331669924002010-07-16T12:13:03.387-04:002010-07-16T12:13:03.387-04:00Wow, look at these comments by Braves fans! Talk a...Wow, look at these comments by Braves fans! Talk about hateful, I can't believe those racist losers even have a team down there! <br /><br />From the Atlanta Journal: <br /><br />http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2010/07/14/braves-send-escobar-to-blue-jays-for-gonzalez-in-5-player-deal/comment-page-11/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-70888657625819168132010-07-16T12:09:26.496-04:002010-07-16T12:09:26.496-04:00Gonna miss Escobar! The Jays got a steal in this t...Gonna miss Escobar! The Jays got a steal in this trade no matter how Braves fan try to sway this. Gonzalez has never kept up this production and never will... AA really did a great job in this trade, and I can't wait to see Yunel tonight! With the proper leadership and a strong history with Latin players I think Yunel will flourish in Toronto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-29015280304846012872010-07-16T12:06:50.949-04:002010-07-16T12:06:50.949-04:00Good stuff Brandon, I looked up some articles abou...Good stuff Brandon, I looked up some articles about the racist comments and they are pretty sad... How can people still say these things? <br /><br />Check some of the comments out from the Atlanta Journal Website: http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/07/12/braves-are-still-waiting-for-yunel-escobar-to-join-their-party/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog<br /><br />They act like they aren't being racist, yet they continue to make assumptions about him without any evidence that he did any of those things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1010722690692900108.post-64617816677203379112010-07-16T12:00:59.148-04:002010-07-16T12:00:59.148-04:00I'm so glad Yunel was able to leave Atlanta. A...I'm so glad Yunel was able to leave Atlanta. As a Braves fan I can tell you almost all of his mishaps have been way overblown. Braves fans act as if he was the only person on the team not running out ground balls or making errors. Every night I get to witness Chipper swinging at the first pitch and then he walks to first instead of running. Then we get to see Troy Glaus and Eric Hinske strikeout and throw or break the bat in a cussing anger. Later on in the game we get to see McCann strikeout or pop-up and cuss like a sailor and throw his helmet. For people who say he is lazy, how do you explain his range factor? Or the fact he gets to every ball? I am furious that the Braves traded him for two C prospects and a washed up SS. It's pretty tough being a Braves fan because all you hear is racial slurs about latin players who don't perform. Trust me Blue Jays fans, you are getting a great player! Braves fans just don't understand the Cuban player. Take a look at Alexi Ramirez, he has been criticized for doing the same things as Escobar. What did the White Sox do? They brought in Omar Vizquel to help tutor him and now he is a class act. This trade was simply a "retirement present" for Bobby Cox. Just look at how hateful the comments about Escobar are.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01098554554367368333noreply@blogger.com